1200w,https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2023/10/20/gettyimages-1746893701-4ce4f2d48ce4ac7c211c5f9ea3054199be547bc2-s1600-c85.jpg 1600w,https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2023/10/20/gettyimages-1746893701-4ce4f2d48ce4ac7c211c5f9ea3054199be547bc2-s1800-c85.jpg 1800w" sizes="(min-width: 1300px) 763px, (min-width: 1025px) calc(100vw - 496px), (min-width: 768px) calc(100vw - 171px), calc(100vw - 30px)" type="image/jpeg"/>WASHINGTON, DC - OCTOBER 20: U.S. Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) speaks to the media as he leaves a closed-door House Republican meeting at the U.S. Capitol. The House Republican caucus is searching for a new Speaker of the House candidate after Jordan failed on three attempts to achieve a majority of votes. (Photo by Anna Moneymaker/Getty Images)
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WASHINGTON, DC - OCTOBER 20: U.S. Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) speaks to the media as he leaves a closed-door House Republican meeting at the U.S. Capitol. The House Republican caucus is searching for a new Speaker of the House candidate after Jordan failed on three attempts to achieve a majority of votes. (Photo by Anna Moneymaker/Getty Images)
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Ever since Kevin McCarthy was ousted as Speaker of the House by only eight members of Congress, things have been pretty messy in the chamber.

Ohio Republican Jim Jordan tried and failed to rally support for his nomination. After losing three ballots on the House floor and a secret Republican-only vote, he's out.

Not having a speaker has essentially shut down the business of governing, and House Republicans have no consensus on a candidate.

Host Scott Detrow speaks with NPR's Congressional Correspondent Deirdre Walsh and Political Correspondent Susan Davis about the ongoing speaker battle and what comes next.

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This episode was produced by Mia Venkat and Lauren Hodges. It was edited by Krishnadev Calamur, Jeanette Woods and Adam Raney. Our executive producer is Sami Yenigun.

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